[n6nl]

Does anyone have the VIN structure yet for the Solterra?

Or at least a sample VIN?

That's what most US insurance agents will need in order to estimate insurance policy pricing.

The little I have been able to find for the bZ4X (XEAM10/YEAM15 Series) started with JTMAx, where the x in position 5 was A for 2WD and B for AWD.

 

[md.]

This car was at the Milwaukee Auto Show. Limited trim.

 

[n6nl]

Thanks.

While that has a valid check digit, I think that the ABABA part might mean that it's a prototype. It would be interesting to compare against other VINs for press/show use. We'll probably have to wait for the first US-spec deliveries of the bZ4X and shortly, the Solterra.

 

[n6nl]

Updated 19 June 2022:

2023 Toyota BZ4X VIN Decoder

1-3 JTM - Asia, Japan, Toyota Motor Corp, Multipurpose Passenger Vehicle

4 A - 5 door wagon

5 Motor(s)

• A - Front 1XM motor
• B - Front 1YM motor, Rear 1YM motor

6 A - Restraints: seat belts all, front airbag driver & psgr, curtain airbag 1 & 2 row, side airbag 1 row, knee airbag driver & psgr

7 Series

• A - 10 series 2WD (XEAM10 - XEAM10X for Solterra)
• B - 15 series 4WD (YEAM15 - YEAM15X for Solterra)
• C - only 4WD/AWD observed, unknown distinction

8 A - bZ4X

9 check digit

10 P - 2023MY

11 A - Motomachi Plant

12-17 Serial Number

Note that only JTMAAAAA (FWD) and JTMABABA/JTMABACA (AWD) have been observed as of 19 June 2022

This encompasses the VINs seen in various test drive videos from the past month and bZ4X deliveries in the US.

 

[n6nl]

This VIN structure is quite different than what Toyota had been doing. I liked that the RAV4 Prime encoded the trim level and a couple of other items. It just makes it easier when a dealer advertises a car with a VIN, you can make sure that the trim level agrees with their textual description. One can always look up a car by VIN to get a complete build sheet.

 

[JayEM]

This VIN structure is quite different than what Toyota had been doing. I liked that the RAV4 Prime encoded the trim level and a couple of other items. It just makes it easier when a dealer advertises a car with a VIN, you can make sure that the trim level agrees with their textual description. One can always look up a car by VIN to get a complete build sheet.

Some brand/dealership websites allow you to download the vehicle (Monroney) sticker, which in several cases I've found to be a useful check against sloppy data entry when new vehicles are added to dealer inventory online. You'd think simply entering the vehicle's VIN would be sufficient (on the dealership side), but most systems clearly don't work that way.

 

[n6nl]

I've updated message #4 (earlier) with additional information.

 

[n6nl]

Let’s speculate on why the latest bZ4X AWD being built seem to start with JTMABACA instead of the earlier AWD cars which were JTMABABA.

Panasonic batteries for the US AWD bZ4X and Solterra? I can only hope.

Plus the rumored 91 day “QC Hold” for cars in the US port.

 

[PTVMan]

I have a deposit on a Solterra Touring that is supposed to be delivered in July. The VIN starts with JTMABABA2PA######.

 

[bob E]

Let’s speculate on why the latest bZ4X AWD being built seem to start with JTMABACA

The VIN starts with JTMABABA2PA######.

CA for CATL and PA for Panasonic?

 

[Plugslug]

CA for CATL and PA for Panasonic?

I’ve got one expected in a few weeks in Canada with VIN JTMABABA7PA00xxxx

 

[rfrancis073]

CA for CATL and PA for Panasonic?

Don't think so. The C replaces a B in previous AWD US models. Previously, there was an A for FWD, B for AWD/4WD and now a C (it's on an AWD model but not sure why the change from B to C) on Limited Models.

For the record, I was given my VIN on Saturday (BZ4X) and it was maybe the first known one to contain a C for the AWD model instead of a B. That's why my interest in this thread on the Solterra forum!

Oh, and the CA and PA don't line up in the same VIN spots as each other!

 

[JayEM]

CA for CATL and PA for Panasonic?

It would be CA vs. BA, 7th and 8th characters.

P is the model year, 2023...

 

[n6nl]

Definite sources for 2023 bZ4X and Solterra VIN Coding System:

23-001-01 23MY Toyota bZ4X VIN Coding System as of 26 May 2022	https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/mid/home/displayfile/a70de428-2d6a-4d1e-9a21-ec58089df8e7
23-002-01 23MY Subaru Solterra VIN Coding System as of 10 May 2022	https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/mid/home/displayfile/db2e0540-ea42-4d53-abfd-99ba9048186b
23-001-01 23MY Toyota bZ4X VIN Coding System as of 10 May 2022	https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/mid/home/displayfile/eed9eccd-4b91-401d-bb79-8a52c9034fe6
23-001-00 23MY Toyota bZ4X VIN Coding System as of 17 Feb 2022	https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/mid/home/displayfile/cd87605c-16e9-42b3-a27f-be951c7611c5
23-002-00 23MY Subaru Solterra VIN Coding System as of 17 Feb 2022	https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/mid/home/displayfile/c8354e2e-6613-44fb-b5fb-a2409a012fba

 

[JayEM]

Definite sources for 2023 bZ4X and Solterra VIN Coding System:

23-001-01 23MY Toyota bZ4X VIN Coding System as of 26 May 2022	https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/mid/home/displayfile/a70de428-2d6a-4d1e-9a21-ec58089df8e7
23-002-01 23MY Subaru Solterra VIN Coding System as of 10 May 2022	https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/mid/home/displayfile/db2e0540-ea42-4d53-abfd-99ba9048186b
23-001-01 23MY Toyota bZ4X VIN Coding System as of 10 May 2022	https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/mid/home/displayfile/eed9eccd-4b91-401d-bb79-8a52c9034fe6
23-001-00 23MY Toyota bZ4X VIN Coding System as of 17 Feb 2022	https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/mid/home/displayfile/cd87605c-16e9-42b3-a27f-be951c7611c5
23-002-00 23MY Subaru Solterra VIN Coding System as of 17 Feb 2022	https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/mid/home/displayfile/c8354e2e-6613-44fb-b5fb-a2409a012fba

So (going forward anyway) B in 7th position = Solterra, A = bZ4X FWD and C = bZ4X AWD.

 

[rfrancis073]

So (going forward anyway) B in 7th position = Solterra, A = bZ4X FWD and C = bZ4X AWD.

That would seem to be the B to C change on the AWD BZ4X units. Give this man a beer!!!

Both BZ and Solterra being "B" previously is probably the reason that so many online car services show Solterra's on a BZ4X filter.

 

[n6nl]

It's also why insurance companies are having trouble distinguishing and quoting bZ4X vs Solterra.

Notice that the 7 and 8 positions have been combined into a Series & Line & Make. That is different than the other 2023 Toyota VINs.

The "AA" for bZ4X FWD and Solterra ET-SS FWD doesn't seem to have any breakout at the moment, but we don't have much useful information from Japanese domestic market cars yet.

So 7 & 8
AA - bZ4X FWD and Solterra ET-SS FWD
BA - pre 1 Jun 2022 bZ4X AWD and (to-date observed) Solterra AWD
CA - post 1 Jun 2022 bZ4X AWD

 

[rfrancis073]

It's also why insurance companies are having trouble distinguishing and quoting bZ4X vs Solterra.

Notice that the 7 and 8 positions have been combined into a Series & Line & Make. That is different than the other 2023 Toyota VINs.

The "AA" for bZ4X FWD and Solterra ET-SS FWD doesn't seem to have any breakout at the moment, but we don't have much useful information from Japanese domestic market cars yet.

So 7 & 8
AA - bZ4X FWD and Solterra ET-SS FWD
BA - pre 1 Jun 2022 bZ4X AWD and (to-date observed) Solterra FWD
CA - post 1 Jun 2022 bZ4X AWD

Shouldn't BA = Solterra AWD, not FWD?

 

[n6nl]

Yes, I have edited my post to fix that error. Thanks!

 

[VICanuck]

I have an actual VIN - I do realize this subject has been dormant since June - should you still be interested.
According to the info, it was built in May.
Shipped to Canada sometime in early June.
Was likely caught up in the wheel recall.
Arrived at the dealership Nov. 22.
Vehicle is in Victoria, B.C., Canada.
Enjoy.