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One of the issues with getting a new car is figuring out how well it will be able to maneuver in a parking garage, and one of the indications without being able to drive it is turning radius (documented as turning circle in most of the Subaru literature).

To set the stage, the difference between driving my wife's Forester and my Outback seems huge when you start having to maneuver in tight spaces. The Forester is super-easy to get in and out of almost any space and the Outback requires 2 sometimes 3 back and forth maneuvers.

So just to get some numbers out from Subaru and Toyota sources:

Turning circle, feetWheelbase, inchesTrack (F/R), inches
Crosstrek35.4104.961.0 / 61.2
Forester35.4105.161.6 / 61.8
Outback36.1108.161.8 / 62.8
Ascent38.0113.864.4 / 64.2
bZ4X40.0112.263.0 / 63.4

Unfortunately, I haven't found anything that seems like reliable information about the Solterra and have a hard time believing it takes 2 feet more than an Ascent to turn it around. So here are the numbers I found so far, just in case anyone else is interested.

Solterra
Turning circle (from initial announcement): 36.7 feet
Turning circle (from the pricing announcement): 36.1 feet
Turning circle (from motor-fan.jp interview): 37.4 (5.7m radius)

I'm thinking maybe the November announcement of 36.7 was correct, then someone misinterpreted the "7" as a "1" when the pricing announcement was created (or they copied the Outback).
 

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One of the issues with getting a new car is figuring out how well it will be able to maneuver in a parking garage, and one of the indications without being able to drive it is turning radius (documented as turning circle in most of the Subaru literature).

To set the stage, the difference between driving my wife's Forester and my Outback seems huge when you start having to maneuver in tight spaces. The Forester is super-easy to get in and out of almost any space and the Outback requires 2 sometimes 3 back and forth maneuvers.

So just to get some numbers out from Subaru and Toyota sources:

Turning circle, feetWheelbase, inchesTrack (F/R), inches
Crosstrek35.4104.961.0 / 61.2
Forester35.4105.161.6 / 61.8
Outback36.1108.161.8 / 62.8
Ascent38.0113.864.4 / 64.2
bZ4X40.0112.263.0 / 63.4

Unfortunately, I haven't found anything that seems like reliable information about the Solterra and have a hard time believing it takes 2 feet more than an Ascent to turn it around. So here are the numbers I found so far, just in case anyone else is interested.

Solterra
Turning circle (from initial announcement): 36.7 feet
Turning circle (from the pricing announcement): 36.1 feet
Turning circle (from motor-fan.jp interview): 37.4 (5.7m radius)

I'm thinking maybe the November announcement of 36.7 was correct, then someone misinterpreted the "7" as a "1" when the pricing announcement was created (or they copied the Outback).
I'm very happy with my Outback's turning diameter. So, if the Solterra's turning diameter is 7 inches larger with 4 inches longer wheelbase, I'm fine with it.
 

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So maybe Toyota is citing the body clearance needed to turn at 40.0 feet and the tire turning diameter (circle) is 36.7 feet which is in the initial announcement, and matches the service manual of 11.2 meters or 36.7 feet (5.6 meter diameter x 2).

I was figuring a touch wider than the Outback when I first saw the Solterra which would be manageable, but when I saw 40 from Toyota it almost made me panic. That would be like driving around a "deuce and a half" (some people will get it).
 

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So maybe Toyota is citing the body clearance needed to turn at 40.0 feet and the tire turning diameter (circle) is 36.7 feet which is in the initial announcement, and matches the service manual of 11.2 meters or 36.7 feet (5.6 meter diameter x 2).

I was figuring a touch wider than the Outback when I first saw the Solterra which would be manageable, but when I saw 40 from Toyota it almost made me panic. That would be like driving around a "deuce and a half" (some people will get it).
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