Toyota shuts BZ4X / Solterra line down for the month of August.

rfrancis073 · 2022-07-19T08:58:45-0400

https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/corporate/37543786.html

Toyota Motor Corporation Motomachi Plant	Production line #1	August 1 (Mon), 2 (Tue), 3 (Wed), 4 (Thu), 5 (Fri), 8 (Mon), 9 (Tue), 10 (Wed), 11 (Thu), 12 (Fri), 22 (Mon), 23 (Tue), 24 (Wed), 25 (Thu), 26 (Fri), 29 (Mon), 30 (Tue), 31 (Wed)	MIRAI, bZ4X, Solterra

JayEM · 2022-07-19T09:02:20-0400

Damn!

md. · 2022-07-19T09:13:46-0400

So, they're running the line from 8/15 thru 8/19. Is that how long they need to run to generate two month's (July and August) worth of Mirai? Or, are they planning (hoping?) for a test run of bZ4X/Solterra with new parts/procedures/inspections?

rfrancis073 · 2022-07-19T09:20:57-0400

md. said:
So, they're running the line from 8/15 thru 8/19. Is that how long they need to run to generate two month's (July and August) worth of Mirai? Or, are they planning (hoping?) for a test run of bZ4X/Solterra with new parts/procedures/inspections?

Note above tables in article:

From August 13 to 21 will be non-working days on the annual calendar due to consecutive summer holidays

It's truly the entire month of August at this point.

md. · 2022-07-19T10:40:56-0400

rfrancis073 said:
It's truly the entire month of August at this point.

Damn!

tymateusz · 2022-07-19T13:55:52-0400

Terrible news. But yes, bring the Crown to North America. /s
It seems it is a compliance car.

N2fw · 2022-07-20T09:55:52-0400

This is definitely unwelcome news, and a shame really considering the number of other manufacturers EVs that may have increased availability before the Solterra ever actually reaches US dealerships. Financial markets continue to worsen and I imagine a number of folks may have a greater hesitation to based on interest rates in Q4 if they planned to pull the trigger in Aug/Sep. I was personally hoping to have a couple of months of electric usage data available as a part of getting a solar array installed before winter hits here and pushes things into 2023. Illinois has a limitation that caps solar installs at 110% of average consumption

I wish that Subaru/Toyota were using this opportunity to improve the offering by improving the charging standard or adding power adjustable passenger seat, and rear AC outlet - but pretty sure we won't be that lucky.

rfrancis073 · 2022-07-20T09:58:40-0400

N2fw said:
This is definitely unwelcome news, and a shame really considering the number of other manufacturers EVs that may have increased availability before the Solterra ever actually reaches US dealerships. Financial markets continue to worsen and I imagine a number of folks may have a greater hesitation to based on interest rates in Q4 if they planned to pull the trigger in Aug/Sep. I was personally hoping to have a couple of months of electric usage data available as a part of getting a solar array installed before winter hits here and pushes things into 2023. Illinois has a limitation that caps solar installs at 110% of average consumption

I wish that Subaru/Toyota were using this opportunity to improve the offering by improving the charging standard or adding power adjustable passenger seat, and rear AC outlet - but pretty sure we won't be that lucky.

Maybe they will push the 11KW charger (for Level 2) ahead of schedule. Currently 6.6KW but a news story from several months ago stated that they were going to 11KW chargers in the Fall.

JayEM · 2022-07-20T09:59:59-0400

rfrancis073 said:
Maybe they will push the 11KW charger (for Level 2) ahead of schedule. Currently 6.6KW but a news story from several months ago stated that they were going to 11KW chargers in the Fall.

I thought the 11kW was 3-phase only (so not North America)?

rfrancis073 · 2022-07-20T10:09:59-0400

JayEM said:
I thought the 11kW was 3-phase only (so not North America)?

That I'm not sure of. Just remember seeing it in the new story several months ago. I don't know of any 3 phase 11KW level 2 chargers so it may be other countries.

Edit: You are correct. Sorry about that (at least for North America).

JayEM · 2022-07-20T10:12:37-0400

rfrancis073 said:
That I'm not sure of. Just remember seeing it in the new story several months ago. I don't know of any 3 phase 11KW level 2 chargers so it may be other countries.

There are cars in the NA market with 11kW but they all use 240v L2, not 380v, so the amperage is higher (would be about 48 amp so 60 amp 240v breaker).

rfrancis073 · 2022-07-20T10:17:19-0400

JayEM said:
There are cars in the NA market with 11kW but they all use 240v L2, not 380v, so the amperage is higher (would be about 48 amp so 60 amp 240v breaker).

Thanks for that. My charger is good for 40A (50A breaker - wish I would have put a 60 in now but my box is old and strange and very hard / expensive to find breakers for so I'm not upgrading unless I feel it will help. I don't think I'll notice the difference in all honestly. Just charge it up all night lol).

JayEM · 2022-07-20T10:27:15-0400

rfrancis073 said:
Thanks for that. My charger is good for 40A (50A breaker - wish I would have put a 60 in now but my box is old and strange and very hard / expensive to find breakers for so I'm not upgrading unless I feel it will help. I don't think I'll notice the difference in all honestly. Just charge it up all night lol).

I've been using a 16 amp EVSE for the past 5+ years, without issue. Admittedly my current car's battery isn't huge (44 kWh) but I can easily charge it to full from almost empty in the time it sits in the garage overnight. My circuit has a 50 amp breaker, so imagine I'll update to a 40 amp EVSE at some point. "If my Solterra ever arrives" LOL.

rfrancis073 · 2022-07-20T10:34:51-0400

JayEM said:
I've been using a 16 amp EVSE for the past 5+ years, without issue. Admittedly my current car's battery isn't huge (44 kWh) but I can easily charge it to full from almost empty in the time it sits in the garage overnight. My circuit has a 50 amp breaker, so imagine I'll update to a 40 amp EVSE at some point. "If my Solterra ever arrives" LOL.

We only have a Rav4 Prime so didn't need the Level2 charger at all but decided to get one since the tax credit (30% of charger and installation (including materials) costs) was expiring last year.

md. · 2022-07-20T22:25:23-0400

JayEM said:
There are cars in the NA market with 11kW but they all use 240v L2, not 380v, so the amperage is higher (would be about 48 amp so 60 amp 240v breaker).

Yes, for example, the Bolt EV which is available for $28k.

JayEM · 2022-07-20T23:19:37-0400

md. said:
Yes, for example, the Bolt EV which is available for $28k.

That's impressive, for something that's not $75k+! Ironically, it's DC charging tops out at just 55 kW.

Toyota shuts BZ4X / Solterra line down for the month of August.

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