[Rubasu]

Link to this article: Toyota rethinks long-term EV strategy, calls Tesla Y a 'work of art,' report says - Autoblog

 

[n6nl]

For their design goals at the time, I think it met them just fine.

Now that they have figured out that being able to build TNGA and E-TNGA on the same assembly line isn’t probably going to make their cars as cost-effective to build as a dedicated platform with additional engineering, they are definitely rethinking things.

While being a ”work of art”, and of integrated design, I am personally not impressed with Tesla’s ability to build their cars in a reliable way. Telsa has a totally different corporate goal than Toyota, and the build quality and consistency of their cars shows the differences.

A decade ago, I told people that when Toyota built a BEV for me, I’d buy one. And I did, while it happens to have a Subaru badge on it. Enjoying my Solterra.

 

[FelineFreddie]

Tesla certainly makes vehicles based and built on ideas “outside the conventional box”, but what will really impress me is when I see 25-30 year old Teslas still on the road the same way we see 25-30 year old Corollas on the road...

 

[n6nl]

Maybe the first couple of years of Model S production will survive 25-30 years, but the MY and M3 will likely be in the junkyard well before then.

 

[JayEM]

To be fair, one doesn't see many 25-30 year old Corollas, especially not in places that use road salt. Or 25-30 year old anythings, for that matter.

 

[R P]

My first ever Subaru (on my 5th now) was a 95 Legacy Wagon. And amazingly I still see the occasional one on the road here. That one went over 300K kms with no major problems. Lots of Subarus here from the early 2000s.

 

[Ducatista]

Guys common, realistically speaking. Do you think any of the current generation EVs from any company will be on the road in 25-30 years unless they have had 1 or 2 battery swaps?

The Solterra may definitely hold up better than a Y or 3 in terms of the body over a 20-30 year period. But I wouldn't say the battery or drive unit would.

 

[R P]

I have heard of several really high mileage Teslas (over 500K miles). And one guy on the Kona forum was pretty high (over 200K kms) with no noticeable battery degradation. My son had over 200K kms on his 2018 Tesla M3 (long range) also with no noticeable degradation. Unfortunately for him, at the moment he is waiting for a battery replacement (since Dec 25). He hit an object on the road and it punctured the Tesla plastic battery guard and damaged the battery. Luckily his insurance is covering it, but waiting forever for parts, still no ETA. I am happy to see that our Solterra has a pretty heft metal plate battery guard underneath.

So if nothing really bad happens, it seems these traction batteries can last a long time.