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I saw that this morning as well and was thinking of bringing it up here. The other article that stood out almost like Toyota marketing was their bZ3 production in China (for the Chinese market only), essentially outsourcing the entire vehicle to BYD, but taking credit for it being a Toyota.

Sounds like Toyota is going to be stuck in an analysis paralysis before they upgrade, design, or redesign anything having to do with EVs. Hopefully Subaru can step up their development efforts and get a Subaru EV out sooner rather than later.
 

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I think the real takeaway there is that the red-hot demand for EV's caught Toyota flat-footed, and they realize that if they stick with their current slow and cautious EV strategy, they're going to go from one of the world's largest volu,e sellers to one of the smallest.

I think that's also why Subaru has announced their intention not only to bring Solterra manufacturing in-house, but also begin developing their own vehicles.
 

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I think the real takeaway there is that the red-hot demand for EV's caught Toyota flat-footed, and they realize that if they stick with their current slow and cautious EV strategy, they're going to go from one of the world's largest volu,e sellers to one of the smallest.

I think that's also why Subaru has announced their intention not only to bring Solterra manufacturing in-house, but also begin developing their own vehicles.
When/where was that said by Subaru?
 

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I think the real takeaway there is that the red-hot demand for EV's caught Toyota flat-footed, and they realize that if they stick with their current slow and cautious EV strategy, they're going to go from one of the world's largest volu,e sellers to one of the smallest.

I think that's also why Subaru has announced their intention not only to bring Solterra manufacturing in-house, but also begin developing their own vehicles.
Also if you're going to be late to the party for EVs, when you do show up, make sure your vehicle is 100% and doesn't have issues like wheels not fitting properly...
 

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Also if you're going to be late to the party for EVs, when you do show up, make sure your vehicle is 100% and doesn't have issues like wheels not fitting properly...
Oh common. This wheels falling off thing is getting ridiculous like Toyota just doesn’t care about this car. Companies like GM recalling the hummer EV for battery packs that aren’t sealed and can get water damage, that’s who people need to be making fun of.
 

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At the same time considering a new platform and major EV changes, they are considering ramping up (6 to 12x current) production of the bZ4X by 2025.

 

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I think the article linked by Feline Freddie pretty much answers that question. Although I hadn't seen that particular article, so it's been in several places.
They are talking about 2027+ models that are Subaru only, not Solterra. Did you see something saying that Solterra production will happen in Gunma or SIA?
 

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As rapidly as the EV market is evolving, who knows if there will even be a Solterra model in 5 years… especially with the hiccups its seen so far?

It may be replaced with a totally new vehicle. It wouldn’t be surprising…

Surely there are some in upper management at Subaru that are less than happy with Toyota‘s approach (and limited success, so far) in the EV world…
 

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They are talking about 2027+ models that are Subaru only, not Solterra. Did you see something saying that Solterra production will happen in Gunma or SIA?
They're talking about building their own production lines to build EV's. Yes, that's future vehicles, but nothing in that article, or any other one that I have seen, suggested it WON'T be Solterras either.
 

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They're talking about building their own production lines to build EV's. Yes, that's future vehicles, but nothing in that article, or any other one that I have seen, suggested it WON'T be Solterras either.
True. However, I doubt Subaru would build an e-TNGA platform car. They will develop their own.
 
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True. However, I doubt Subaru would build an e-TNGA platform car. They will develop their own.
Technically the SGP (Subaru global platform) was designed with future powertrains in mind (hybrid and BEV). However, in order to be truly cost competitive, I think Tesla has proved you need a dedicated EV platform. Not something that works for all situations.

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Technically the SGP (Subaru global platform) was designed with future powertrains in mind (hybrid and BEV). However, in order to be truly cost competitive, I think Tesla has proved you need a dedicated EV platform. Not something that works for all situations.

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100%. SGP isn’t the platform to be competitive. It is from an old way of thinking about BEVs. A ground up BEV skateboard platform will be key.
 
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At the same time considering a new platform and major EV changes, they are considering ramping up (6 to 12x current) production of the bZ4X by 2025.

key phrase - "considering"
 
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