Pictures show the Solterra to be lacking the two stereoscopic cameras from the top center of the windshield. I don't think it is really EyeSight as we know it. I think it is Toyota Safety Sense being mislabeled as EyeSight on the Solterra.
I understand this. Always be ready to turn the wipers to high or get the AC/heater blowing on the front windshield.Owning a Subaru with Eyesight, i like the system, but in bad weather it does decide that it's not safe and it disables itself.
If the system on the Solterra is more capable in bad weather due to the use of the millimeter wave radar with the single camera, then I am OK with that.
Thanks for the extra info, I'll cross my fingers that TSS 3.0 is better, but I won't hold my breath. Agree on Eyesight, had it for 18 months and it still pleasantly surprises me with how well it works.Yes, the Hyundai systems also use radar. As I understand it, single camera systems need that. A dual camera system can calculate distances. What I like about EyeSight, too, is that the little dash above the HU show when it locks onto the car in front and how far ahead it is, so you know it is working. Hyundai gives no visual, and you are not sure if it is working until it starts braking. It is fine on steady flowing traffic, but not stop and go, esp if the car in front stops quickly. Like I said, I just don't trust it. Eyesight on the other hand does just what you would expect and never surprises or scares me.
I love that light, my 20 Outback has it but my wife's 20 Forester doesn't and I always have to double check it's tracking the car in front of us when I drive hers.The newer Subarus (my 2021 OBXT) also have a green "LED" that shows it's active, and it reflects onto the windshield glass like a fake HUD. The center MFD also displays the vehicle in front when it's engaged.
I appreciate the lock-on as a wannabe fighter pilot.![]()
Thank. God. This means you get radar-based detection and not Suby's "it's raining too much for the safety system to work" stereoscopic cameras. Eyesight has been one of the most disappointing features on my 21 Legacy. Random braking due to sunbeams and shadows, continued braking when a lead vehicle departs the lane, and inconsistent follow cruise distance settings are "features" I could do without. It should tell you something when the only other car manufacturer going radar-free is Tesla. Incidently, I'm wondering if this is going to be Suby's "Eyesight" for all models going forward. Eyesight 2.0 should be arriving soon...I don't think it is really EyeSight as we know it. I think it is Toyota Safety Sense being mislabeled as EyeSight on the Solterra.
Yeah, it's highly subjective and variable across environments and driving styles (possibly even hardware). The EyeSight in both my '20 Outback and '21 Legacy exhibit similar issues, but the Legacy seems tuned a bit better, especially with lane keep assist. I also wonder if it has something to do with the asphalt composition in my state, which reflects light more, especially in the rain. When it goes down, though, it goes down hard and for minutes at a time. I always assumed it was rebooting the subsystem.Wow, that has not been my experience at all in 18 months of Eyesight!
I've been driving an EyeSight-equipped Outback (2017, now 2021) for almost 6 years now. While the system is not flawless, it is way less prone to shutting off when driving toward the sun than the single-camera system in my BMW. And, after almost 6 years, I now know that the car will slow down when the car ahead is exiting the lane. I've learned to use the gas pedal to override that, which is admittedly a workaround, but I no longer see the need to complain about it as I did the first few months driving the 2017.Wow, that has not been my experience at all in 18 months of Eyesight! Had one incident where it cut out due to visibility issues, and even then it was just for a few seconds. I appreciate having the cameras as I can keep them clean while driving. Read lots of accounts and know lots of people whose radar-based system has cut out because of snow or dirt on the sensor, which is usually low on the front grill.
The lead car turning issue I attribute to the system not knowing if the road is turning and you’re still following them, but I agree it’s annoying.