Solterra Gross Vehicle and payload weight

SolRay · 2022-04-26T13:32:50-0400

Does the ~600lbs payload weight seems low for this class of vehicle?

JayEM · 2022-04-26T19:56:33-0400

SolRay said:
Does the ~600lbs payload weight seems low for this class of vehicle?

How did you arrive at that figure?

SolRay · 2022-04-26T20:14:08-0400

JayEM said:
How did you arrive at that figure?

Curb weight, from here:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/subarumedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/attachments/2023_Solterra_Specs_-_FINAL.pdf

Premium: 4,365
Limited: 4,455
Touring: 4,505

Gross Vehicle Weight:

2023 Subaru Solterra Spec List

Here you can find a full list of specifications for the 2023 Subaru Solterra EV. This list is just for the Japanese market model but it should be similar to versions sold in the United States, Canada, Europe, China, etc. 2023 Subaru Solterra Specifications (Japan) FWD car AWD car Overall...

www.solterraforum.com

2295kg => 5059lbs

Payload = 5059 - 4455 ~ 604lbs

I'm hoping to numbers are wrong, since that seems very low.

Thanks!

bob E · 2022-04-26T20:47:42-0400

SolRay said:
Curb weight, from here:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/subarumedia.iconicweb.com/mediasite/attachments/2023_Solterra_Specs_-_FINAL.pdf
Premium: 4,365
Limited: 4,455
Touring: 4,505

Gross Vehicle Weight:

2023 Subaru Solterra Spec List

Here you can find a full list of specifications for the 2023 Subaru Solterra EV. This list is just for the Japanese market model but it should be similar to versions sold in the United States, Canada, Europe, China, etc. 2023 Subaru Solterra Specifications (Japan) FWD car AWD car Overall...

www.solterraforum.com

2295kg => 5059lbs

Payload = 5059 - 4455 ~ 604lbs

I'm hoping to numbers are wrong, since that seems very low.

Thanks!

Here are the bZ4X's specs:

2023 Toyota bZ4X Full Specs | Toyota.com

Visit the official Toyota website to check out the full specs of the 2023 BZ4X to see everything this unique BEV offers you for an exciting driving experience.

www.toyota.com

Its AWD version has a payload weight of 1156lbs. I'm assuming the Solterra will be roughly the same. And with that payload, it has a higher capacity than my Outback which has a maximum payload of 900 lbs. So, the Outback can carry four Texans; and the Solterra can carry four Texans and their backpacks.

SolRay · 2022-04-26T20:53:31-0400

bob E said:
Here are the bZ4X's specs:

2023 Toyota bZ4X Full Specs | Toyota.com

Visit the official Toyota website to check out the full specs of the 2023 BZ4X to see everything this unique BEV offers you for an exciting driving experience.

www.toyota.com

Its AWD version has a payload weight of 1156lbs. I'm assuming the Solterra will be roughly the same. And with that payload, it has a higher capacity than my Outback which has a maximum payload of 900 lbs. So, the Outback can carry four Texans; and the Solterra can carry four Texans and their backpacks.

Sweet! Thanks for the correction. That is way more reasonable and plenty of payload weight!

JayEM · 2022-04-26T21:04:48-0400

SolRay said:
Sweet! Thanks for the correction. That is way more reasonable and plenty of payload weight!

I wonder why the reported GVWR is so much higher for the bZ4X AWD than for the Solterra? 561 lbs (255 kg) is a huge difference.

SolRay · 2022-04-26T21:18:45-0400

JayEM said:
I wonder why the reported GVWR is so much higher for the bZ4X AWD than for the Solterra? 561 lbs (255 kg) is a huge difference.

Must be a typo or weight restrictions for the Japanese models. I wish they would put up the warranty, specs, and owner's manual on subaru.com.

Pbm · 2022-04-26T22:57:54-0400

Curb weight difference between
Ltd and tour is only 50lb ?
(Glass roof and front seat vents )
Also the official spec gives exactly same range for both trims ?

JayEM · 2022-04-26T23:04:51-0400

Pbm said:
Curb weight difference between
Ltd and tour is only 50lb ?
(Glass roof and front seat vents )
Also the official spec gives exactly same range for both trims ?

Both Limited and Touring have the 20" wheels, vs. 18" in Premium. Apparently the minor weight difference between Limited and Touring isn't enough to affect the range estimate.

StevenH · 2022-05-06T20:19:31-0400

Combined weight of passengers and cargo should never exceed 925 lbs. This is per the label in the door jam shown in the owners manual.

bobleon39540 · 2022-05-07T09:37:56-0400

StevenH said:
Combined weight of passengers and cargo should never exceed 925 lbs. This is per the label in the door jam shown in the owners manual.

It's a 5 person car. If all 5 weight 200 lbs each, that's 1000 lbs. What happens?

JayEM · 2022-05-07T09:46:25-0400

bobleon39540 said:
It's a 5 person car. If all 5 weight 200 lbs each, that's 1000 lbs. What happens?

I suspect 3 200 lb people will feel a bit crowded in the rear seat...

JIm_in_PA · 2022-05-07T10:23:55-0400

JayEM said:
I suspect 3 200 lb people will feel a bit crowded in the rear seat...

I agree. "Practically", a vehicle of this size is a four seater for full size adults. The same is true for the Forester and other similar rides. Even a larger midsize SUV like the Ascent isn't super comfortable for three full-size adults in a middle bench seat configuration. The width just isn't there.

bobleon39540 · 2022-05-07T10:29:22-0400

JIm_in_PA said:
I agree. "Practically", a vehicle of this size is a four seater for full size adults. The same is true for the Forester and other similar rides. Even a larger midsize SUV like the Ascent isn't super comfortable for three full-size adults in a middle bench seat configuration. The width just isn't there.

OK, say 4 large men at 250 lbs or more. That's 1000 lbs or more without stuff in back. Combined weight of passengers and cargo should never exceed 925 lbs, What will happen?

JayEM · 2022-05-07T10:43:38-0400

bobleon39540 said:
OK, say 4 large men at 250 lbs or more. That's 1000 lbs or more without stuff in back. Combined weight of passengers and cargo should never exceed 925 lbs, What will happen?

Technically the vehicle will be overloaded.

JIm_in_PA · 2022-05-07T13:54:08-0400

bobleon39540 said:
OK, say 4 large men at 250 lbs or more. That's 1000 lbs or more without stuff in back. Combined weight of passengers and cargo should never exceed 925 lbs, What will happen?

What Jay said. Overloaded by specification and not legal. It's not so much about damaging the vehicle at that slight overload, but if there was an accident, it potentially could be a liability factor.

md. · 2022-05-07T14:46:46-0400

bobleon39540 said:
OK, say 4 large men at 250 lbs or more. That's 1000 lbs or more without stuff in back. Combined weight of passengers and cargo should never exceed 925 lbs, What will happen?

JIm_in_PA said:
What Jay said. Overloaded by specification and not legal. It's not so much about damaging the vehicle at that slight overload, but if there was an accident, it potentially could be a liability factor.

Looks like I won't be driving the boys up to Green Bay for a Packer game!

StevenH · 2022-05-07T16:19:38-0400

Slight contradiction, the Solterra owner's manual specifications say Vehicle Capacity Weight (Occupants + luggage) is 1045 lbs. (475 kg). So, four 200 lb adults plus 245 lbs of luggage is good.

Crumas · 2022-05-07T17:42:12-0400

StevenH said:
Slight contradiction, the Solterra owner's manual specifications say Vehicle Capacity Weight (Occupants + luggage) is 1045 lbs. (475 kg). So, four 200 lb adults plus 245 lbs of luggage is good.

I believe the extra weight-capacity is due to the fact that all Solterras will have dual motors.

326 · 2022-05-07T17:54:48-0400

md. said:
Looks like I won't be driving the boys up to Green Bay for a Packer game!

Put these guys on a diet and then have them weigh in like prize fighters in a boxing match!

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