[Craig]

If the mileage reads 215, I get 100 miles to the charge. I can drive 5 miles and the mileage counter goes down 10. This is using the radio,no heat,nothing except driving at 45 mikes per hour (speed limit)
last week we left our house with a range of 215 miles and only got 122 mikes before we were in the danger zone
snyine else with this issue?

 

[JayEM]

Not here. I just drove 140 miles at 70 mph today (cold - low 30s F/windy) and had 20 miles left when I got back home. I would've have liked more, but it will do more when it's warmer. This was a trip I couldn't take with my last two EVs.

 

[nanzsolterra]

If the mileage reads 215, I get 100 miles to the charge. I can drive 5 miles and the mileage counter goes down 10. This is using the radio,no heat,nothing except driving at 45 mikes per hour (speed limit)
last week we left our house with a range of 215 miles and only got 122 mikes before we were in the danger zone
snyine else with this issue?

I can’t say the same here. I often drive ~ 100 miles at a time and I’m finding the mileage reading (is that what they refer to as GOM???) quite accurate. It may be my imagination, but I feel the reading has become even more accurate over time. From my experience, I’d say if your reading continues to be so inaccurate, something is wrong.

 

[JayEM]

I can’t say the same here. I often drive ~ 100 miles at a time and I’m finding the mileage reading (is that what they refer to as GOM???) quite accurate. It may be my imagination, but I feel the reading has become even more accurate over time. From my experience, I’d say if your reading continues to be so inaccurate, something is wrong.

I have noticed that the GOM is the least accurate when the HVAC is turned off. Initially, it displays a higher number than with HVAC on, but it drops faster (which is the opposite of what you'd expect) and after a long enough trip the actual efficiency reported doesn't seem to be any different. So no more driving with the HVAC off for me!

 

[R P]

GOM is based on past driving and will really vary with different driving conditions. Eg city vs highway, cold vs warm, going up the mountains vs coming down, etc etc. I go by experience and have been pretty accurate with my estimates going up to the same ski hills. No surprises for me.

What we don't know is exactly how it is calculated, and how recent the data used is. It does make sense, though, that it gets more accurate over time, assuming the car learns from past experience.

 

[Patrick]

Only if it is very very cold, like -20F.

 

[monty]

I found mine became a lot more accurate after 2000 miles. There are many posts here about how unreliable it is.
It seems you have to keep track and do mental arithmetic. I am currently assuming I have 75% of what it says, using limited heating.

 

[ajpascucci]

I can’t say the same here. I often drive ~ 100 miles at a time and I’m finding the mileage reading (is that what they refer to as GOM???) quite accurate. It may be my imagination, but I feel the reading has become even more accurate over time. From my experience, I’d say if your reading continues to be so inaccurate, something is wrong.

That is correct ! I charge only to 80 percent. I get in cold weather charge around 180 MILESS total range its on the money. If I take it down to around 56 miles takes between 3 hours to get backl to max and 5 hours closer to 10 percent left of the 80. At 90 percent in cold I ranger around 256 miles and at 100 percent get around 270 miles. At delivery was 303 in perfect conditions. Hope that helps !

 

[Doug]

This is a related question. Does the Soltera use resistive or heat pump for heating? I like a warm car, and turning the heat off and suffering through the cold is just not an option for me. Since especially resistive heating is a big battery draw, it would be a deal changer for me. I am sure there are others that like a warm car in the winter. What has your experience been with range using it?

 

[JayEM]

Heat pump.

 

[Crumas]

This is a related question. Does the Soltera use resistive or heat pump for heating? I like a warm car, and turning the heat off and suffering through the cold is just not an option for me. Since especially resistive heating is a big battery draw, it would be a deal changer for me. I am sure there are others that like a warm car in the winter. What has your experience been with range using it?

There have been a number of posts on this forum regarding range impact when operating the heat pump. Should be able to search to find them. If I remembered the names of the topics, I would list them here, but I’ve slept since then. ;-)

 

[ETGIF]

This is a related question. Does the Soltera use resistive or heat pump for heating? I like a warm car, and turning the heat off and suffering through the cold is just not an option for me. Since especially resistive heating is a big battery draw, it would be a deal changer for me. I am sure there are others that like a warm car in the winter. What has your experience been with range using it?

I agree and I have been trying to use the heat sparingly but frankly I am not going to spend $50k on a car and shiver while I drive. In the winter (now) if you turn the heat off the car gets cold. Seat heat and steering wheel heat doesn't cut it. Frustrating. I am getting maybe 180 miles per charge running heat like I would in a gas car. Odometer currently ~2000 miles.

 

[dfault7]

I agree and I have been trying to use the heat sparingly but frankly I am not going to spend $50k on a car and shiver while I drive. In the winter (now) if you turn the heat off the car gets cold. Seat heat and steering wheel heat doesn't cut it. Frustrating. I am getting maybe 180 miles per charge running heat like I would in a gas car. Odometer currently ~2000 miles.

I haven't done any accurate tracking yet, but it seems like I have to recharge after just a few local trips in the area. Gas cars all tend to tell you what your MPG is for the current tank of gas as well as life of car. What I would like to see is the Soltera tells you Miles per Kilowatt Hour (MPKWH). Now the question is, if you spend a KWH to charge the battery, do you get a KWH when the car draws the power or is it less. I would expect it to be less, due to the inefficiency of the conversion. The car computer probably has this information. So I want to know how many miles I get out of a KWH used to charge the battery. I really don't want to have to track the KWH used to charge the battery, track the miles and do all the math. If I had MPKWH, I could look at my utility bill to see what I pay for a KWH and then figure out the MPGE. When I bought the car, I had an expectation of an MPGE of around 90, which is 3 times better than my gas car. My suspicion is that my MPGE is really closer to 30, meaning I'm not saving any money by going electric. This is like grocery stores with unit pricing, when one product is cost per quart and the other is cost per bottle (which isn't a quart). Has anyone calculated the MPGE for their Soltera?

 

[md.]

I haven't done any accurate tracking yet, but it seems like I have to recharge after just a few local trips in the area. Gas cars all tend to tell you what your MPG is for the current tank of gas as well as life of car. What I would like to see is the Soltera tells you Miles per Kilowatt Hour (MPKWH). Now the question is, if you spend a KWH to charge the battery, do you get a KWH when the car draws the power or is it less. I would expect it to be less, due to the inefficiency of the conversion. The car computer probably has this information. So I want to know how many miles I get out of a KWH used to charge the battery. I really don't want to have to track the KWH used to charge the battery, track the miles and do all the math. If I had MPKWH, I could look at my utility bill to see what I pay for a KWH and then figure out the MPGE. When I bought the car, I had an expectation of an MPGE of around 90, which is 3 times better than my gas car. My suspicion is that my MPGE is really closer to 30, meaning I'm not saving any money by going electric. This is like grocery stores with unit pricing, when one product is cost per quart and the other is cost per bottle (which isn't a quart). Has anyone calculated the MPGE for their Soltera?

Have you found the setting to get the instrument panel to display mi/kWh? It can display an ongoing tally and per trip.

mi/kWh*33.7 gives you MPGe. MPGe is a made up measure and doesn't really help you compare to a gas vehicle. It's based on the fact that a gallon of gas contains the same amount of energy as 33.7 kWh of electricity. EVs are much more efficient than ICEVs, which only turn about 30% of the energy in gas into forward motion.

Toyota has said some things that suggest that their mi/kWh currently takes into consideration charging losses. However, they have said that they will push out an update that will change that to match the rest of the industry, which only considered energy coming out of the battery. If you have that information, you're probably safe assuming something like 10% loss. That number will be larger if it is very cold or very hot, due to battery conditioning.

 

[allenfinne]

My experience so far. Over 1810 miles ( 7 weeks), my Solterra Limited has averaged an overall 3.3 m/kWh using "eco" driving mode and running seat & steering wheel heater and cabin temp at 68 degrees when chilly. That gives a MPGe of 111 miles. My daily commute to/from work is 26 miles, about half city and half highway with a mix of conditions for weekend errands.

I am in the Southcentral part of the US, so beyond a few frigid days, temps are more moderate then more northern or mountain areas. My garage part of the house structure, but not directly heated. It is at least is the 50s even on a 10 to 20ish degree overnight low. During the day, at work, I am parked in a parking deck. It will be interesting to see what the range is blasting AC when full on summer starts which is hot and humid here.

My biggest complaint is DC charging is slow. Nothing new there. My observations, Over 3 or 4 tries with ElectrifyAmerica and Chargepoint DC chargers starting at 20-30% SOC, they both start about 34 kW/h, hang there for the better part of the charge and ramp down to around 20 kW/h as 80% SOC is approached. Outside temps have been 50s and low 60s, a couple times yo-yoing beforehand, once with heater blasting on the way, once doing nothing special with a drive of about 5 miles to the charging station. I have a level2 charger in the garage and typically charge once or twice a week to 80%. Sessions are 4 to 5 hours.

I am hopeful Toyot-aru will push updates later this year to improve the charge curve. My wife drives a BRZ, so familiar with Toyota/Subaru common platforms and quirks occasionally arising. Will the slow charge cause me to sour on the car? Nope, it should be better, but we're not road trip folks. My complaint is more along the lines, "Guys, I understand a conservative stance on battery life, but geez, come on now, loosen up some, tweak it a bit."