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I checked A Better Route Planner's vehicle list today, and the bZ4X is there as an (alpha). Their reference efficiency for the AWD version is an abysmal 2.83 mi/kWh. It takes about 18 hours longer going coast to coast than a Model Y. I still want to hear some real world charging and range info about the Solterra.
 

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I checked A Better Route Planner's vehicle list today, and the bZ4X is there as an (alpha). Their reference efficiency for the AWD version is an abysmal 2.83 mi/kWh. It takes about 18 hours longer going coast to coast than a Model Y. I still want to hear some real world charging and range info about the Solterra.
That should not be a surprise. The Solterra is not a good trip car. If that is what you want, look elsewhere.
 

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That should not be a surprise. The Solterra is not a good trip car. If that is what you want, look elsewhere.
That efficiency number, if accurate, is a complete surprise. I'm planning to judge for myself about how acceptable it is as a trip car based on real-world range testing and resulting efficiency, and my intention to use the charger-hopping strategy.
 

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That efficiency number, if accurate, is a complete surprise. I'm planning to judge for myself about how acceptable it is as a trip car based on real-world range testing and resulting efficiency, and charger-hopping.
True, we don't have independent real world range testing yet. Am waiting for the Edmunds numbers. But given what we know so far about the car, still say it is not a good trip car, and there are far better other choices if that is what you want.
 

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True, we don't have independent real world range testing yet. Am waiting for the Edmunds numbers. But given what we know so far about the car, still say it is not a good trip car, and there are far better other choices if that is what you want.
My friend who owns the Tesla Model 3 is very surprised by the Solterra range numbers considering his Model 3 has a significantly smaller battery, yet he’s averaging about 238 miles on a charge. It’s got to be large buffers at the top and/or bottom end.
 

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My friend who owns the Tesla Model 3 is very surprised by the Solterra range numbers considering his Model 3 has a significantly smaller battery, yet he’s averaging about 238 miles on a charge. It’s got to be large buffers at the top and/or bottom end.
The M3 is much more aerodynamic car, and lower to the ground.
 

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I checked A Better Route Planner's vehicle list today, and the bZ4X is there as an (alpha). Their reference efficiency for the AWD version is an abysmal 2.83 mi/kWh. It takes about 18 hours longer going coast to coast than a Model Y. I still want to hear some real world charging and range info about the Solterra.
that is strange as I thought range over 200 miles didn’t matter with charger hopping.
 

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that is strange as I thought range over 200 miles didn’t matter with charger hopping.
This has nothing to do with overall range, which mostly matters for the first leg of a trip. An abysmal efficiency requires a deeper charge into the taper to get those 105-140 miles to the next charger stop.
 

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This has nothing to do with overall range, which mostly matters for the first leg of a trip. An abysmal efficiency requires a deeper charge into the taper to get those 105-140 miles to the next charger stop.
then why does the Tesla get you to your destination 18 hours faster? My trip to Chicago in a Model y is 6:50 minutes and two stops. Same trip in bz4x is 8:15 minutes and 4 stops.
 

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My friend who owns the Tesla Model 3 is very surprised by the Solterra range numbers considering his Model 3 has a significantly smaller battery, yet he’s averaging about 238 miles on a charge. It’s got to be large buffers at the top and/or bottom end.
Nobody should compare an SUV EV to a Model 3. The 3 has insane efficiency… I recall getting 4.2 mi/kWh driving 80+ mph back from Daytona. It’s the aerodynamics and a hyper efficient drivetrain.

My ID.4 RWD and Mach-E RWD would be lucky to get 3.0 mi/kWh at those speeds. Even with 70F temps.

2.8 mi/kWh sounds conservative but probably safe. 3.0 mi/kWh might be normal for driving 70-75mph.
 

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ABRP's consumption numbers are at 65 mph. I'm sure it's calculated, not observed for the bZ4X at this point.
I checked the Model 3, Y, ID.4, and Mach-E Wh/mile numbers and they all seem 20-30 Wh/mile higher than my personal experience in Florida but it could be the numbers are meant for colder/lower temps and/or all wind and rain conditions. ABRP is very conservative and want to avoid stranding you.
 

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I checked the Model 3, Y, ID.4, and Mach-E Wh/mile numbers and they all seem 20-30 Wh/mile higher than my personal experience in Florida but it could be the numbers are meant for colder/lower temps and/or all wind and rain conditions. ABRP is very conservative and want to avoid stranding you.
I plan on using an OBD dongle to provide real-time data to ABRP, unless the Solterra can send the data to it without the OBD dongle.
 
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