[frankamartin]

Dodge Electric Muscle Car
Dodge Charger DAYTONA SRT – Noisy Electric Muscle Car

Dodge has introduced their noisy electric muscle car. It is not a sound on speakers.

The brand’s current gas-powered muscle cars, the Charger and Challenger, end production next year. The concept muscle car, called the Dodge Charger Daytona SRT, resembles a model that will go on sale 2024, according to executives. It will join a new small SUV called the Hornet that will be available as a plug-in hybrid and is set to go on sale later this year.

The Charger Daytona has exhaust pipes that make noise and a transmission that shifts gears. None of that is necessary in an electric car, of course, but Dodge assumes its target customer isn’t looking for what’s strictly needed. These customers are looking for excitement, Dodge CEO Tim Kuniskis said, which requires more than just fast acceleration.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/17/business/dodge-electric-muscle-car/index.html

Current Dodge

• Challenger From $30,545| ~80K vehicles sold in 2022 in the US
• Charger From $32,645 | ~55K vehicles sold in 2022 in the US
• Durango From $38,495 | ~55K vehicles sold in 2022 in the US

can be purchased with a 3.6 liter 6 clinder engine, but you can spend up to $100K for an 8 cylinder V-8 with up to 6.4 liters. Dodge has said that their EVs will be in a similar price range, but it is not clear what that actually means. It does look as if the Durango will be discontinued but a new Hornet PHEV will be introduced.

Are we looking at a model for what Subaru will do with the STI?

 

[JIm_in_PA]

It does look as if the Durango will be discontinued

The current Durango has been manufactured by Jeep in the Detroit "Jefferson North" plant since 2010 intermixed with Grand Cherokee. That platform is no longer being used by Jeep with the current generation of Grand Cherokee but the line permits mixing both generations of vehicles so that Durango was able to continue production while Dodge figured out what to do with the SUV. A lot of the early chatter was that Durango would go to the RAM line and back to body-on-frame, but it hasn't been clear about their intentions. The 3-row Grand Cherokee produced nextdoor eclipses the Durango at this point and with Dodge being the performance brand, moving the name to RAM does make sense. Jeep is already electrifying JGC as a PHEV, starting with the 2 row version.

Interesting that the Hornet name might come back...that's an old one!

 

[frankamartin]

Any thoughts if Dodge will be able to reproduce the low end of the MSRP using electric motors?

• Challenger From $30,545| ~80K vehicles sold in 2022 in the US
• Charger From $32,645 | ~55K vehicles sold in 2022 in the US

Do you think Subaru will create a noisy EV for the STI? How about for the STI and WRX and BRZ? Personally, I don't see any of these models surviving past 2030 in their present form when Subaru wants to see zero motor vehicle fatalities associeted with Subaru.

 

[R P]

Maybe it's an age thing, but one of the reasons I like EVs is that they are quiet. I've had my time with noisy cars and motorcycles, and long done with that.

 

[Marek Barinka]

Not only age thing. I am young and engine sound is the last thing I want. I want good and reliable driving in different weather conditions (last weekend we were with skis and half of the car stopped in the middle of hill and slipped back, not us), if without too much noise, just better. And EV feels like much better ration between acceleration and consumption. Also my driving style - keep high speed longer and have more aggressive braking when max speed decrease - is better in EV, I can get some energy back. But the price is currently too much

 

[poodlemaster]

Well I did not use the stereo in the BRZ I traded for my Solterra, because the car sounds so good. The song at 7500 RPM was very sweet indeed. I do miss that car, but my Solterra is so good I am happy. I do use the stereo in my Luxury Solterra and as the speakers break in, I can tell you its pretty good. This from a stereo aficionado who finally has a use for all the damn hi res digital I collected, before making my analog chain so good, I quit listening to it.

 

[frankamartin]

one of the reasons I like EVs is that they are quiet.

Well EV sales estimated to break 800,000 in the US for 2022, and should be a lot higher in 2024. So if Dodge manages to sell 150,000 muscle EVs in 2024, perhaps that will take care of the market share for noisy EVs.

Dodge executives are very aware that not all of their long time loyal customers are going to switch to an EV muscle car. They are basically counting on a new kind of customer who wants all the noise and power, but who are too eco-conscious to purchase a vehicle that generates 10 tons of carbon dioxide per year (Dodge Charter SRT Widebody). I think the price point of the 3.6 L 6 cylinder engine vehicles is going to be los.

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